[sdw2003] IT Unionizing

[Jackson]

Bob,  you forgot to add into your equasion that California also has the
MOST Students with english as a second language.  How do your kids test well
when they are learning how to speak, write and read english?

Teachers are getting blamed for Kids not learning - but they have
this Social Passing of elementary students...They don't hold them back... it
might hurt their feelings.   They get out of 8th grade and can't write or
read or do math... yet they passed... So we start testing them in highschool
and blaming those teachers for the whole deal.

I have learned alot since Kath recareared to teaching.  She ran her own
business for 20 years and stands apart from  most teachers...

Gotta stop... you people don't need the whole story here.

Jackson

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Bob <bob at unicorncomputers.com> wrote:

> Have you ever tried firing a teacher........good luck.  That is why the
> Teacher's
> Union is against competency testing for their own people. I'm sure you
> remember
> the story earlier this year about the teacher that has been in the
> system for many
> many many years and they finally found out he could neither read nor
> write. I
> believe that California is in the top 5 states of spending per student,
> but is
> in the bottom 5 of student scoring, so throwing money at a problem just
> doesn't
> work.  I totally agree with Don....unions are a thing of yesteryear.  I
> worked
> in the grocery IT business for over 17 years, and saw the unions picket
> Major
> Market for years, because they wouldn't give in to their strong-armed
> thug tactics.
> You can also see it today with the way they despise Walmart.  It's
> probably why
> they are one of the most successful businesses in the U.S today. If you
> can't beat
> them, then picket the h3ll out of them until they give in.  In fact the
> picketers
> are normally a bunch of flunkeys who have no idea what they are
> picketing for and are
> making minimum wage.  I should know, since an in-law was hired to do
> this and didn't
> have a clue and didn't really care.
>
> -bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sdw2003-bounces at mattware.com [mailto:sdw2003-bounces at mattware.com]
> On Behalf Of Torrey Pines PW Golden Falcons
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:54 AM
> To: San Diego Windows 2003 User Group
> Subject: Re: [sdw2003] IT Unionizing
>
>  So higher pay for teachers is an issue?   someone who is with our
> children everyday to ensure they get a solid education is a issue?
> Teachers with masters degrees don't make what it pros make without a
> degree Teachers really deserve everything they get.... And more
>
> On 9/4/08, James Eitzen <jeitzen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >From slashdot;
> > http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/09/04/1359257.shtml
> >
> > So, what do you guys think?
> >
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Jackson